Völkl Deacon 84 Lowride (Page 2)
Strengths:
The ski itself is great. You can also drive and turn with it, especially in deep snow
Weaknesses:
But after about 15 days of skiing, the snow brake broke without any external influence such as a fall. So I thought, okay maybe I did something that I didn't realize. But when the same thing happened again after 8 days of skiing, I was really shocked. I had a lot of limitations because I had to interrupt the ski day to rent skis, otherwise I would lose the skis when they took off.
Summary:
Although the ski is not bad, I still have to give it one star. I want to be able to rely on my skis, especially when they cost over 500 euros. Using inferior quality there and not even having the decency to replace this part in the event of a complaint and also to accuse me of improper treatment, although I just skied with it and didn't even fall down in any way, I find more than weak. It also makes no sense to me to own my own skis if I then have to rent skis for a lot of money every time. That's why I will never buy völkl skis again and I can't recommend them to anyone who wants to be able to rely on their equipment.
Model year: 2020
Riding style: slope/powder
Length on the ski: 189 cm
Riders weight: 85 kg
Riders length: 190 cm
The ski itself is great. You can also drive and turn with it, especially in deep snow
Weaknesses:
But after about 15 days of skiing, the snow brake broke without any external influence such as a fall. So I thought, okay maybe I did something that I didn't realize. But when the same thing happened again after 8 days of skiing, I was really shocked. I had a lot of limitations because I had to interrupt the ski day to rent skis, otherwise I would lose the skis when they took off.
Summary:
Although the ski is not bad, I still have to give it one star. I want to be able to rely on my skis, especially when they cost over 500 euros. Using inferior quality there and not even having the decency to replace this part in the event of a complaint and also to accuse me of improper treatment, although I just skied with it and didn't even fall down in any way, I find more than weak. It also makes no sense to me to own my own skis if I then have to rent skis for a lot of money every time. That's why I will never buy völkl skis again and I can't recommend them to anyone who wants to be able to rely on their equipment.
Model year: 2020
Riding style: slope/powder
Length on the ski: 189 cm
Riders weight: 85 kg
Riders length: 190 cm
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Strengths:
Fast, nimble & speed stable. Wonderful on hard - icy ground, very good even on soft and sloppy snow
Weaknesses:
Is no height we deeper snow than 1 dm.
Summary:
Perfect sweden ski! Can do most things with bravura !! Sounds the slightest hint for your feet (boots)
Never loses grip, tested at 90 km / h mm.
(Of course not the same stability as my Vökl Gs 191 cm)
Fast, nimble & speed stable. Wonderful on hard - icy ground, very good even on soft and sloppy snow
Weaknesses:
Is no height we deeper snow than 1 dm.
Summary:
Perfect sweden ski! Can do most things with bravura !! Sounds the slightest hint for your feet (boots)
Never loses grip, tested at 90 km / h mm.
(Of course not the same stability as my Vökl Gs 191 cm)
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Strengths:
The performance, the grip, the playfulness, the kick when you push the ski. Speed edge to edge
Weaknesses:
The color and the price, but it is still cheaper than Stöckli (which on the other hand has the most outrageous grip and stiffness I have ridden on).
Does not work very well in the spring slush. Then I want to have a really wide ski. But then it is not possible on the other hand to tok-carva either ...
Summary:
A magically versatile ski when it comes to piste skiing. From the morning manchester to the run-up afternoon. In the afternoons I go and look for "ice" spots to turn on because there I get the wrong grip.
Fun ski that I do not get tired of.
Model year: 2021
Riding style: Love carving but like to fool around off the piste when it dumps
Length on the ski: 177 cm
Riders weight: 96 kg
Riders length: 192 cm
The performance, the grip, the playfulness, the kick when you push the ski. Speed edge to edge
Weaknesses:
The color and the price, but it is still cheaper than Stöckli (which on the other hand has the most outrageous grip and stiffness I have ridden on).
Does not work very well in the spring slush. Then I want to have a really wide ski. But then it is not possible on the other hand to tok-carva either ...
Summary:
A magically versatile ski when it comes to piste skiing. From the morning manchester to the run-up afternoon. In the afternoons I go and look for "ice" spots to turn on because there I get the wrong grip.
Fun ski that I do not get tired of.
Model year: 2021
Riding style: Love carving but like to fool around off the piste when it dumps
Length on the ski: 177 cm
Riders weight: 96 kg
Riders length: 192 cm
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Strengths:
* Good edge grip (which people should have)
* Very stable and comfortable in softer piste although they require technology / speed.
* Quick turn when active riding.
* Carvar gallantly in easily driven piste
Weaknesses:
- Requires active technology to be fun to ride
- Got to work more clearly to keep the grip in icy and bumpy piste compared to a real piste ski (Völkl racetiger SL), certainly comes from the width and the grinding.
Summary:
Liked them but am pretty sure that 177 cm is far too long / stiff for my size so would have been very fun to test 172 or 167.
Am very curious to see how they would go in some powder and afternoon hump.
Did not test major turns especially much but focused on short turns. But they never felt nervous / whimsical regardless of swing type or speed. However, it is noticeable that it is not a building for mys skiing as they become quite dead and boring without speed / pressure.
A little measure of the other sizes for the interested.
162cm, 13.90 m, 132-84-115 mm
167cm, 14.80 m, 132-84-115 mm
172cm, 15.80 m, 132-84-115 mm
177cm, 16.90m, 132-84-115mm
182cm, 17.90 m, 132-84-115 mm
Model year: 2020
Riding style: Piste and off piste
Length on the ski: 177 cm
Riders weight: 60 kg
Riders length: 170 cm
* Good edge grip (which people should have)
* Very stable and comfortable in softer piste although they require technology / speed.
* Quick turn when active riding.
* Carvar gallantly in easily driven piste
Weaknesses:
- Requires active technology to be fun to ride
- Got to work more clearly to keep the grip in icy and bumpy piste compared to a real piste ski (Völkl racetiger SL), certainly comes from the width and the grinding.
Summary:
Liked them but am pretty sure that 177 cm is far too long / stiff for my size so would have been very fun to test 172 or 167.
Am very curious to see how they would go in some powder and afternoon hump.
Did not test major turns especially much but focused on short turns. But they never felt nervous / whimsical regardless of swing type or speed. However, it is noticeable that it is not a building for mys skiing as they become quite dead and boring without speed / pressure.
A little measure of the other sizes for the interested.
162cm, 13.90 m, 132-84-115 mm
167cm, 14.80 m, 132-84-115 mm
172cm, 15.80 m, 132-84-115 mm
177cm, 16.90m, 132-84-115mm
182cm, 17.90 m, 132-84-115 mm
Model year: 2020
Riding style: Piste and off piste
Length on the ski: 177 cm
Riders weight: 60 kg
Riders length: 170 cm
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Strengths:
Absolute strength in being able to switch substrates, from raw rice to afternoon soft, probably the best ski I've ever ridden for just that. Ice grip out of the ordinary compared to most highend Völkl models, race tiger GS race department, Code, Code V Werks, (carbon fiber)
Weaknesses:
After 10 days of riding Hemsedal & Badgastein, yes it is difficult to find any weaknesses.
Summary:
Mao. A very versatile ski in its category. If you are a really experienced skier, this ski is an easy-going and restful ski to ride. Easy to change turning radius and speed on. Withstand high speeds without trembling on the cuff.
Model year: 2020
Riding style: Skiing, ski instructor style, very experienced,
Length on the ski: 182 cm
Riders weight: 90 kg
Riders length: 182 cm
Absolute strength in being able to switch substrates, from raw rice to afternoon soft, probably the best ski I've ever ridden for just that. Ice grip out of the ordinary compared to most highend Völkl models, race tiger GS race department, Code, Code V Werks, (carbon fiber)
Weaknesses:
After 10 days of riding Hemsedal & Badgastein, yes it is difficult to find any weaknesses.
Summary:
Mao. A very versatile ski in its category. If you are a really experienced skier, this ski is an easy-going and restful ski to ride. Easy to change turning radius and speed on. Withstand high speeds without trembling on the cuff.
Model year: 2020
Riding style: Skiing, ski instructor style, very experienced,
Length on the ski: 182 cm
Riders weight: 90 kg
Riders length: 182 cm
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Strengths:
Good cutting. Stable in speed. Easily turned in loose snow.
Weaknesses:
Maybe not the sharpest coat on icy piste.
Summary:
A fantastic all-round ski for us who want to get that little extra.
Model year: 2020
Riding style: Piste, with added flavor
Length on the ski: 172 cm
Riders weight: 68 kg
Riders length: 175 cm
Good cutting. Stable in speed. Easily turned in loose snow.
Weaknesses:
Maybe not the sharpest coat on icy piste.
Summary:
A fantastic all-round ski for us who want to get that little extra.
Model year: 2020
Riding style: Piste, with added flavor
Length on the ski: 172 cm
Riders weight: 68 kg
Riders length: 175 cm
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Strengths:
+ Stability
Grip +
+ Can actually run really short turns too, though it requires a little more effort.
+ Allround
Weaknesses:
-Demanding
Summary:
Borrowed and tested these for two hours in rather bad conditions (driven by elements of ice). No problems besides annoying "skidding" in the turns in a really steep ice section, but most likely due to the inexperience of the skis and some lack of technology - have only run on narrower and shorter slalom / big slalom skis earlier type Völkl Racetiger, which I love. Experienced that they were a bit difficult to edge in the turns, but may have been lack of weight / strength / technique / experience with skiing type / sun / energy / mental focus etc, which meant that I did not get the required weight / power to the teams. Definitely a ski for the more advanced rider, as it requires a lot to fully come to his right.
Should try these a full day and also in humpback terrain as well as a little off-piste in the future to make a better overall assessment.
Model year: 2020
Riding style: Piste / off piste 90/10
Length on the ski: 182 cm
Riders weight: 85 kg
Riders length: 186 cm
+ Stability
Grip +
+ Can actually run really short turns too, though it requires a little more effort.
+ Allround
Weaknesses:
-Demanding
Summary:
Borrowed and tested these for two hours in rather bad conditions (driven by elements of ice). No problems besides annoying "skidding" in the turns in a really steep ice section, but most likely due to the inexperience of the skis and some lack of technology - have only run on narrower and shorter slalom / big slalom skis earlier type Völkl Racetiger, which I love. Experienced that they were a bit difficult to edge in the turns, but may have been lack of weight / strength / technique / experience with skiing type / sun / energy / mental focus etc, which meant that I did not get the required weight / power to the teams. Definitely a ski for the more advanced rider, as it requires a lot to fully come to his right.
Should try these a full day and also in humpback terrain as well as a little off-piste in the future to make a better overall assessment.
Model year: 2020
Riding style: Piste / off piste 90/10
Length on the ski: 182 cm
Riders weight: 85 kg
Riders length: 186 cm
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Strengths:
witty
Crazy well on ice
Holds all my 100+ kg
Works all day
Weaknesses:
Not found any but .. would be the color then, but it works
Summary:
Have been on RTM for several years but think these are snap kivckers.
Safe at higher speeds and fast from edge to edge, only holds the ground against it so you can lean as much as possible.
Very fun to put railroad tracks throughout the piste
Model year: 2020
Riding style: Ski racers who like to bus around the piste if it snowed heavily (but then on other skis ...;)
Length on the ski: 177 cm
Riders weight: 105 kg
Riders length: 192 cm
witty
Crazy well on ice
Holds all my 100+ kg
Works all day
Weaknesses:
Not found any but .. would be the color then, but it works
Summary:
Have been on RTM for several years but think these are snap kivckers.
Safe at higher speeds and fast from edge to edge, only holds the ground against it so you can lean as much as possible.
Very fun to put railroad tracks throughout the piste
Model year: 2020
Riding style: Ski racers who like to bus around the piste if it snowed heavily (but then on other skis ...;)
Length on the ski: 177 cm
Riders weight: 105 kg
Riders length: 192 cm
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Strengths:
Stable and powerful ski
Weaknesses:
Expensive and demanding
Summary:
Great skiing experience. It has other resources.
Model year: 2020
Riding style: Piste
Length on the ski: 177 cm
Riders weight: 90 kg
Riders length: 190 cm
Stable and powerful ski
Weaknesses:
Expensive and demanding
Summary:
Great skiing experience. It has other resources.
Model year: 2020
Riding style: Piste
Length on the ski: 177 cm
Riders weight: 90 kg
Riders length: 190 cm
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Strengths:
Edge grip, fun performance pattern!
Weaknesses:
Demanding
Summary:
After a morning with Manchester I am quite satisfied & very tired, the triple radius was experienced only at full pressure & active riding. Experienced as long as the test length 177.
Classic feel. Tremendously nice skiing but very moderate for most people who want "new" RTM 84. (Check out the deacon 80 instead.)
Model year: 2020
Riding style: Piste. Honored race rider
Length on the ski: 177 cm
Riders weight: 90 kg
Riders length: 184 cm
Edge grip, fun performance pattern!
Weaknesses:
Demanding
Summary:
After a morning with Manchester I am quite satisfied & very tired, the triple radius was experienced only at full pressure & active riding. Experienced as long as the test length 177.
Classic feel. Tremendously nice skiing but very moderate for most people who want "new" RTM 84. (Check out the deacon 80 instead.)
Model year: 2020
Riding style: Piste. Honored race rider
Length on the ski: 177 cm
Riders weight: 90 kg
Riders length: 184 cm
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